why i haven’t, but want, to write about breastfeeding

I don’t write a lot about breastfeeding.

I write about bras a lot – fitting them, buying them, selling them.  I write a ton about kids, about being a mom and about running a business.  But I don’t write a lot about breastfeeding.  Let me explain why.

I am not into judgment.  Life, parenting, love, friendship; to me these are all built on choice.

I am pro-choice, pro-love, pro-information, pro-sisterhood, pro-parenthood.  I am anti-hate and anti-judgment.  As far as I am concerned, life is about choice.  If I am not nursing you, sleeping with you or love you, then what you do is your own damn business.

Breastfeeding is important to me.  This should really be obvious.  I do own and run a nursing bra company.  I have three little ones.  I nursed them all.  The oldest until he was 4, the second to 4 ½ and the little one to 3 ½ – tandem twice, through two pregnancies.  I have had mastitis nine times, plugged ducts, thrush and all the trimmings.  Even after nursing two children, through a pregnancy, I had plugged ducts so bad with the third that the midwife had to open them with a lance. 

For years I have breastfed, through pregnancies, colds, sick kids, mono and pneumonia.  I’ve nursed on hayrides, the subway, tandem in the food court at the mall, on planes, in cars leaning over the car seat and in sales meetings.  When Nummies opened our first accounts with retailers, I was nursing my youngest in their stores.

So you could say I support breastfeeding (nursing bra jokes aside).  It was never easy, not a single day of it.  But for me, it was a commitment to a relationship and I took it very seriously.   I would not take no for an answer.

I don’t write a lot about breastfeeding because I understand that there are many women who choose not to breastfeed and I don’t think it is any of my business why they do.   I have seen new moms in tears because they are not able to successfully nurse their children for a variety of reasons and my heart goes out to them.  I see women who spend their days pumping and feeding with bottles only to be judged by other breastfeeding women because their milk comes from a bottle.

I am blessed to know amazing daddies who have been caregivers of little ones full or half time.  I do not think it is a breast that makes a parent or a bond when feeding.

I do want to educate pregnant woman about why breastfeeding is an amazing choice.  I want to educate doctors and nurses.  I want to see women breastfeeding in public where children can see them.  It was not until I had my children that I saw another woman breastfeed…there is something wrong with that.  My children have never known a bottle, but don’t you worry, I will mess them up in my own special way.

The problem that I see with the breastfeeding debate is that it puts parents against each other in judgment.  I don’t like anything that pits us against each other.  Parents need to build each other up.  I want to talk about breastfeeding, but I am just not sure how to start.

I am a breastfeeding advocate.  What about you?

  • I can see why this is one of your favorite posts! Not only is the post awesome (back to that in a sec) - the comments are also inspiring and interesting!

    I agree with you on the pro-everything... and also the anti-judgment and anti-hate!! <<so agree...<br="" much="">
    But reading your post and then the comments, I sat here shaking my head... The story by Expat Mom, made me want to go back in time and b*tch-slap those people... I've been shaking my head because *somehow* I have missed all of this drama... I have never had anyone make me feel bad for my choices that I made for my son... or I guess if they tried, I ignored them... I'm with one of the other commenters (too many to go find it again) - that said 'why do moms make other moms feel this way'... I am floored that so many people have had this happen. I really don't live in a bubble, so I'm not sure why I'm so floored, and why I've never seen this...

    I know all the benefits of breastfeeding... I was all prepared... I sat the last 6 months of my pregnancy on bed-rest in EXTREME pain because I wouldn't take any pain relievers (my pelvis came apart and twisted, long story, but that's the gist).. so when I was in the hospital after giving birth, I tried to feed, he tried... nothing.. then I went through the hot, then the rock hard breasts.. all the while using the pump trying to get the flow going... nothing... I fed him every 1-2 hours... formula, and would then spend 20 minutes trying to pump... still in pain mind you - the pelvis didn't snap back! >> and still with no pain relievers - turns out I'm allergic to them... but all I ever got was maybe a teaspoon... so after 2 months, I gave up... I had to go back to work and since it wasn't working anyway, I didn't want to haul all that stuff around. Selfish? probably, but my choice :) Personally, I wish it would have worked, but I never let the decision eat me up!

    I love that you wrote this and sparked this debate... </so>
  • Alison Kramer
    this is the post i am the most proud of, for many reasons. for the conversation it sparked, for the stories it allowed women to share, for the sisterhood it allowed.
    Thank you for being a part of it
  • Mandy
    "My children have never known a bottle, but don’t you worry, I will mess them up in my own special way."

    This sounds a lot like a judgement. Bottles will "mess a child up?"
  • Alison Kramer
    taken on its own and entirely out of context, maybe...

    thank you for your comment
  • I am so thankful for this post. It is

    I breastfed both my kids (and am planning for the third that's on his/her way), but for some reason around six months both started rejecting the breast. I don't know if it my milk supply went down or if is/was just a natural six month nursing strike, but it went on so long and they (we) were just so miserable that eventually I had to supplement with a bottle, which eventually led to totally weaning and complete bottle feeding. I never talked about it much with anyone because it always seemed like my pro-breastfeeding friends were disappointed in me and felt like I should have tried harder, which made me feel awful. On the other had my formula feeding friends almost cheered me on like I should've been using formula from the beginning, which made me feel just as awful.

    The post is so insightful and non-judgmental. It is the most refreshing pro-breastfeeding writing I've read. Thank you.

  • Alison Kramer
    Thank you for your comment. i am not sure how i missed it a month ago when you posted it...
    Judgement really keeps people from supporting one another, often at times when we need each other most
  • maggiesavage
    Another great post Alison. Thanks for sharing your story - you continue to amaze me with your insight. I feel lucky to have stumbled upon you on twitter, you're like my twitter mommy mentor sometimes! And holy moly lotsa comments! :)
  • Alison Kramer
    that is so sweet, thank you. i'm just learning. i am really proud of all the stories everyone has shared.
  • I just want to respond to something HappyMomAmy said...because it touched on something that is difficult for ME as somebody who tries to represent formula feeders.

    I have yet to talk to a formula feeding mom who feels guilty when a breastfeeding mom celebrates her accomplishments. I kid you not. Not a ONE. And honestly, I doubt that they are out there. The women who I've seen disparage breastfeeding or act weird about someone enjoying an extended BFing relationship are usually ignorant twits who are uneducated about the many benefits of nursing.

    But this is not who we are talking about when we talk about formula feeding guilt.

    The FFs who feel guilty are those who know about the benefits, but who ran a personal cost-benefit analysis and chose to FF because it worked better for their family. The woman who tried to breastfeed and couldn't for any variety of reasons. The woman who was never comfortable with nursing herself, but understands the beauty and power of the breastfeeding relationship for others.

    These women are the ones who speak of guilt. And I believe that these are the women we should be protecting, and are who I fight for on a daily basis. But I promise you, celebrating your breastfeeding success is not a problem for us. We celebrate with you. I just don't see knocking someone else's choices (or lack thereof) as a celebration, you know? Not that you are doing that - but I want you (and all breastfeeding advocates) to understand the root of the "guilt" argument, because I see this misunderstanding everywhere and I feel that if we could clear up these misconceptions, we'd all be happier.

    Saying, "I am so proud that I've nursed my son for 22 months" is a celebration, and I will rejoice with you.

    Saying, "Formula feeding is the longest uncontrolled experiement in human kind (or whatever that stupid quote I see on Twitter all the time says)" is not a celebration.

    Saying, "I love breastfeeding and it makes me feel so powerful" is a celebration.

    Saying, "I feel sorry for formula feeding moms because they will never know that power" is not.

    Just my two cents. ;)
  • Alison Kramer
    your two cents are always welcome here, i hope you know that. my experience has been that when i do share my story about my own personal breastfeeding choices, that women will automatically feel that i am judging them as "bad" mothers because they did have a similar story. even when i tell women i own a nursing bra company, they will usually reply without my asking, about how they couldn't or didn't or whatever.

    In my experience with Amy, and we have worked on a few things together and online "know" one another well, is that she is an advocate for breastfeeding and also for motherhood in general. i think, from what i know, that you two would enjoy one another's conversations/debates/stories very much because like you, Amy is also "fearless". i actually am very happy if this is the first time you two have "met"
  • Gosh- I am sorry on behalf of my "people" that anyone has ever made you feel that way. Honestly. I only feel pride and awe when my friends share their incredible breastfeeding stories. I am constantly amazed at the power we have as mothers and women - our bodies and spirits are incredible. I have nothing but the utmost respect for those who nurse, especially extended nursing, b/c I realize that our society is not accepting of this, and it takes a lot of strength.

    I assume these women you've met are responding defensively - not that you are making them feel guilty through your success, but rather, like you said, that they worry you are judging them. This is an unfortunate result of what this war has become... and what I am trying to stop (pretty unsuccessfully so far!) And it really sucks, b/c for the most part, most of the breastfeeders I know are completely non-judgmental, and most of the FFs are pro-breastfeeding. A few bad eggs are screwing up the omelet, you know?
  • Alison Kramer
    and that is why i think you are so GREAT! you do not need to apologize for anything, nor do i for "my people" as you say. We are all mothering, trying our best and loving our children. i think the few bad eggs is a truism on both sides :) but no need for that to affect our conversation
  • I'm so glad you took the first step and wrote about it! That's great. You're someone who's got a ton to offer other moms when it comes to nursing, so it's great that you're putting yourself out there (and even more impressive to be doing it when you were a little uncomfortable with it).

    This post touches on where it gets difficult for me. I think that as breastfeeding moms, we end up getting shut down in sharing our own stories, facts, and experiences about breastfeeding. While I want to respect parents for their choices, I also am entitled to share my victories (breastfeeding for 18 months & counting, for one!) without having that taken away from me because maybe it makes a mom who formula feel bad about the way she chose to feed her child.

    It's also crucial to the breastfeeding cause to be able to share facts without the stigma of the guilt it might elicit in some audiences.

    So, I agree - this is such a hard topic to breach, because of the tapdance that has to be done to make sure no one feels slighted or criticized. That's not the goal of the majority of the people sharing their stories and advancing breastfeeding. I think once we get past that (that the intention is to give info and share victories, not make anyone feel bad), it will be much easier to share openly and with the confidence that it will be well received.

  • Alison Kramer
    I agree that worrying about offending does keep women from sharing their stories - we are worried about offending others and about being offended. there seems to be a lot of hurt on both sides of the issue, as well as all the spaces in between.
    i was really moved by how many women shared their stories. Thank you for being one of them :)
  • As someone who comes from a very pro breastfeeding country and was/has been bullied incessantly about my choice not to, its really really lovely to come across posts like this.

    You GET it. So many advocates don't.
  • Alison Kramer
    being bullied into anything is terrible. i believe parenting choices should be based in love. Thank you for your comment
  • Great discussion. I am a Reg. N and fully promoted breastfeeding when I use to work on OBS but also supported the moms that made the choice not to do so. I breastfed my son for close to 2 yrs and what I struggled with personally were the questions about why I was still breastfeeding my son given his age. My son was quite ill as a baby and I always felt I was helping him health by continuing with the breastfeeding. I still have friends comment at times about how long I had breastfed him for and how "it was so wrong", I think we need to continue to promote breastfeeding any chance we can. That being said my son is now almmost 6 yrs old and I do like having my breasts backt to myself.
  • Alison Kramer
    Great comments!
    I agree that extended breastfeeding is an important discussion too. Near and dear to my heart. Just when I got through the challenges, people started asking me when I was going to stop!
  • Joanne C
    This thread is a breath of fresh air. THANK YOU SO MUCH for posting this entry. I had an awful time trying to breastfeed my daughter. A perfect storm of physical issues with both baby and me, outside stressors, and just plain bad luck made breastfeeding pretty much impossible. Three lactation consultants, my OB, her pediatrician, and a craniofacial specialist all agreed that I went above and beyond to try to make it work. We had so many challenges and it was something I wanted *so badly* that I really mourned when at 8 weeks I finally faced reality and went to formula only. It CRUSHED me and judgmental words, eyes, and frowns made an emotionally painful situation even worse. Everyone assumed I didn't want to do it; wasn't willing to try hard enough; or that I was selfish and didn't care about giving my baby "the best" - so, so hurtful.

    I felt (and still!) feel obligated to explain our whole medical history to complete strangers just so they won't think I'm a terrible mother. How awful is that?! The truth is that it's none of their damn business. We are a happier family now...my daughter is healthy and loves us. A far cry from the awful start we had where she would cry and scream and push away from me every time we tried to nurse. It was a terrible dynamic and I hate that I spent most of my maternity leave in that miserable emotional "space" with my daughter. So now I relish the loving bond we have - I can't ask for much more than that! (Well, I'd ask that people stop judging others. You can't really know what it's like to be in someone else's shoes!)
  • Alison Kramer
    thank you for sharing your story. We all seem to feel the need to explain. i used to get very defensive when people would say "of course you are still breastfeeding, obviously it has been easy for you" I would get so upset, and let them know every detail of our challenges.
    I am told a lot of stories by women who did not breastfeed when they find out what i do, even without me asking.
    We want to be good parents and we want others to think we are good parents - so badly that we are terribly hard on ourself and others.
    i am so glad that you have come out of the struggles you had to have a happy family
  • Dude!!! I totally get it. This is now the 3rd time I've read your post :) and I LOVE that you've put yourself out there. Even with this post you will have people who agree, disagree, are indifferent and who judge you. It takes a strong woman to put herself out there and show the world who you are; at every angle. And for that, I respect you more. Breastfeeding is such a hot topic and people are so passionate about it in different ways for different reasons, I struggle with it..and my gowns were designed ON the basis of breastfeeding, based on MY personal experience breastfeeding in the hospital. I breastfed my daughter for 15 months and was judged..I'm breastfeeding my son who is 22 months and I'm asked every time we have a visitor in the house and I'm breastfeeding "So, how old is he" or "Isn't he too old for that", or "When are you going to stop" and I HATE judgements..so I prefer to avoid conflict..so I too struggle with how to talk about it..but HMG is getting a blog soon and I can't wait to put it all out there...for everyone to judge :) Thanks again for your honesty Alison <3
  • Alison Kramer
    dude, i think we'd get along well irl, just saying :)

    A friend when reading all the comments and reactions to this blog said that it was amazing how being open with yourself gave other people permission to do it.

    Btw, great answer to "when are they going to stop"" is "When he is done". That always shut people up for me - if only because they were stumped by the grammar!

    much love
  • Yes...I think we'd MORE than get along irl!! I am sure our paths will cross soon :) We're both about the boobies..and that will put us in the same road..hopefully sooner as opposed to later..so until then..tweet u l8er!
  • Artsy_Jenny
    Wow. I read this post and like many others want to thank you. I offer a unique perspective to the comments although I don't think I offer a unique perspective to moms out there. I am currently Breastfeeding my baby. And not because of the extra bond, the love of breastfeeding, but simply because I determined for health reasons it was the best option for him. (Both DH and I have allergies and if there is anything I can do to potentially eliminate the risk of DS getting them I will do it.) But I can honestly say I hate breastfeeding. I don't enjoy being a milk machine. I don't enjoy be the only one to get up in the middle of the night. I don't like the feeling of my body not being my own. It doesn't give me a sense of super-mom-ness that I can "provide sustenance" for my child. I feel humiliated when I have to feed the baby in public places. In my head, the bad far outweigh the good, except for that one piece of "what if" I could have prevented my baby of a life-threatening allergy and I didn't do it.

    I hate the pressure other moms put us under, and I hate being lumped in with the pro-breastfeeding advocates for fear other moms might think I might force them to hear my rants on BFing. I avoid conversations and forums about BFing because I know I would get so many others who would look down on me. Or even worse try to "fix" me. I'm not sure where all the negativity about it all came from I only know that it's my opinion that counts to me and only mine. I've been lectured at, e-mail spammed and defriended on Facebook because of the dislike I have that I never once preached to anybody about.

    So Alison, I do thank you for this post, and thank you for letting me share my thoughts with your audience. I only hope that there are moms like me who read this post and know that they are not alone, and that no mother should ever feel guilty if they can't or chose not to breastfeed. In the end a mother who makes the right decision for her situation will be the best mom to her kids.
  • Alison Kramer
    my heart goes out to you. you are certainly make a sacrifice for your baby, a self-less one. As a mom with slightly older children, i can tell you this will not be the last one. I know many moms who do not nurse, who are up at night with their children - such is the life of "MOM"

    i am so thankful to you for sharing and i hope you will know that you are not alone. Somewhere, someone has read this and you have made them feel less isolated.

    when i was up late and didn't feel like breastfeeding, i would save a treat for myself - a late night movie, ice cream, a great book, only for those times when breastfeeding was hardest. i hope you are taking care of yourself in other ways, and when you are not nursing find great joys in your children and your parenting.

    much love
  • mellissad
    For the most part, I steer clear of parenting forums these days because I had such a bad experience with judgement on them. I went there for support, yet seemed to get criticised for every decision I made. Apparently, because I had a c-section, circumcised my son, switched to formula at 3 months, used disposable nappies, didn't co-sleep, and used controlled comforting, my son was going to turn out to be unhealthy, obese, unintelligent, have an array of emotional issues, and hate me (he's three now, and is none of these things!). I could not believe the vitriol these women were spewing at each other, and at me!

    I commend you for this post, and hope you will go on to write more about your breastfeeding experiences. We are hoping to have another child in the next year or two, and I am hoping to have a better and longer breastfeeding experience this time around. But if things don't work out, that's okay. We don't need to put that kind of pressure or judgement on other women, and we especially don't need to put it on ourselves.
  • Alison Kramer
    thank you for sharing your story. I am looking forward to writing more about breastfeeding. i think the hardest part about reading your comment is hearing that the negativity drove you away from parenting forums. There is still a lot of good out there. You can find your supports and focus on people who raise you up.
    Education is the key, when you do decide to have another baby i would check out http://www.drjacknewman.com/ and http://www.askdrsears.com/ they were two places online where i learned a ton about breastfeeding
  • Love love this. I do think that it's important for people to make their own decisions etc. but when it comes to nursing, I do want to make sure people are making their decisions with accurate, informed facts.

    So many times I hear things that simply aren't true about breastfeeding and why 'it couldn't be done'. While there are times when formula is a must, there are often ways of working to nurse first.

    If I'm an advocate,it's 'breast is best' and to encourage people to be factually informed.

    Love this post.
  • Alison Kramer
    i agree that education and good information is the answer, long before breastfeeding has been attempted. Our children should grow up seeing women breastfeed, otherwise how can what is best become the norm?
  • Hey again- just wanted to let you know that I talked about you (and this post) on my blog. :)
    http://fearlessformulafeeder.blogspot.com/2010/02/best-kind-of-breastfeeding-advocacy.html
  • Alison Kramer
    read and commented, awesome. thank you :)
  • There's such a responsibility on the professionals involved at such an emotional time to pick their words well.
  • Alison Kramer
    its true, if you read through some of the comments you can see that negative experiences with breastfeeding support or breastfeeding mothers will turn other moms off continuing to nurse or trying again with future children. It is possible to advocate with kindness - in fact i believe it is critical
  • Very well said. I especially like the end part about messing your kids up in your own way. I feel like that too. breastfeeding may be one thing I've gotten right but I'm sure there's a whole lot more I'll be getting wrong!
  • Alison Kramer
    thank you for reading and for your comment. you made me realize that my nursing relationship with my kids is one that i am most proud of - one i got right. i wish i could say that about all of my parenting
  • Elena
    Alison, Thank you so much for writing this post... and I so appreciate the comments from all the other mommies out there. Everyone MUST do what works for them. I am breastfeeding my baby (2 months) and love the experience. However, two weeks after she was born, I lost my mom, and was not able to pump enough to leave for my cousin who stayed with my daughter while I attended the funeral. My cousin gave her some water, which I was comfortable with. My pediatrician said it was perfectly fine to give her water once in a while. However, at the breastfeeding clinic (where I went, because I developed an absess and didn't know what it was) I along with my pediatrician were called 'irresponsible'. There is a lot of judgement out there and it is unfortunate. What I think is important, is to educate the mommies, the doctors and the breastfeeding clinic nurses about pros and cons of each choice and the extent to which each is acceptable. Thanks again for your post, Alison.
  • Alison Kramer
    i am so touched by you sharing your story. It is a wonderful example of exactly why we need to remove judgement - we never know what it is like to be in someone else's shoes.
    My condolences for the loss of your mother and congratulations on your baby. much love
  • ymc_maureen
    We ARE all judged.. it makes no sense. and being a full-time working mom who didn't breats feed and has children of different races... I feel judged quite a bit, but the good news is, once people know me they know that I love those kids just as much as any stay at home mom who breastfed (Actually, make that just as much as any PARENT, no need to label... we all love our kids). As you said, we all make choices.. or sometimes we just do what we need to do to get by.
  • Alison Kramer
    and that is just it, the judgment keeps us from truly knowing one another and learning from each other. and the most difficult ones to talk about, are the ones we need to talk about the most
  • What a great post. Thank you for not insisting everyone has to do it the same way.

    I have had such bad experiences with lactation nurses over this that I now will not even talk to them in the hospital. With my first son, the lactation consultant told me that if it hurt I was "doing it wrong." This led to me second guessing myself for about a week, wondering if I was starving my son and an evil mom for supplementing with formula.

    It was a great pediatrician who saved me at the one-week visit. "Of course it hurts!" she said. Then I realized I was being silly by driving myself crazy.

    So long story short, lactation consultants nearly caused me to give up breastfeeding. I stay as far away from them as possible now.
  • Alison Kramer
    that is really an unfortunate story, i am sure you were very frustrated and hurt. having a new baby is hard in the best of situations, let alone when breastfeeding is challenging. i hope you will give lactation nurses another chance though, maybe they could learn from your experience and be better at what they do - so that other moms don't need to have a negative experience like you did. Or if not, then hopefully one will read your feedback here
    thank you so much for sharing
  • I won't share the details of my story because it would take to long. The short version is that I struggled with breastfeeding but was eventually able to do it although I had to supplement with formula. Breastfeeding was something I really wanted to do, but the early days were frustrating, scary, and expensive. I would never judge another woman for not wanting to breastfeed.

    I too was struck by the fact that American women don't typically see or talk about breastfeeding until they have their own babies. I was ashamed that I was supplementing but became less so when I learned that some of my friends did too. If only I had known that ahead of time it would have lessened the blow when my lactation consultant told me!

    I am also a playwright. I have decided to use my writing to help open up discussions about breastfeeding. I'm working on The Boob Juice Project, a multi-media performance about the wonderful, frustating, painful, rewarding, and everything else stories of breastfeeding. I have stories from women who struggled as I did. I have a story from a woman who was told she wouldn't be able to breastfeed due to reduction surgery but did it for two kids with no problems. I have stories from women who had to slow their milk supplies because it was overwhelming to the babies. I'm interested women's first experiences with trying to breastfeed, any funny or frustrating stories along the way, and how/why/when they stopped.

    I've only started on this in the last month, and I continue to seek the experiences of as many women as I can. If you wanted to expand on anything you revealled above for the sake of my project please send it to theboobjuiceproject [at] gmail [dot] com.
  • Alison Kramer
    WOW! Thank you so much for sharing and what important work you are doing! Of course i would love to be involved. Parents need to talk about these things
  • ymc_maureen
    Alison, you are such a womderful person/mom/friend. I love this post. I tried to breast feed Rebecca and was unsuccessful. In my mother's group there were 3 of us who couldn't or didn't breast feed, and we were definitely judged. The 3 of us are still friends.
    With a new baby on the way, I'm going to be trying again. We will see how it goes this time.
    Thanks for not judging... it means so much.
  • Alison Kramer
    its so silly really, we ALL feel judged no matter what we do it seems. Whether it is feeding choices, or work, or school...Parents need one another for support, not judgement
  • Thank you for this post. I have to agree with Beth- this is one of the only times I have read a pro-breastfeeding post that didn't make me feel guilty and crappy.

    As someone who desperately wanted to breastfeed (but never produced enough milk even after 3 months of pumping and feeding round the clock) and is pro-breastfeeding I am very bothered by the ton that the 'pro-breastfeeding' advocates often take. In particularly, it hurts me to hear over and over again that I am 'harming' my child with formula. I believe that breast milk is better, but I think we need to focus on supporting the mother- not telling her that if she doesn't do it the "right" way (aka- breastfeeding) her kid won't be as smart and will get sick. Fear is not the way to support any mother, whether or not it is true. Your post is the exact sort of supportive tone we need to take. Thank you.
  • Alison Kramer
    thank you for sharing your story. i agree, we need to support moms more, as much as we can. As parents, we can be amazing resources for one another
  • CarrieRogo
    It is a shame you don't see more breastfeeding in public. I remember visiting a woman with my mom WAY back when I was quite young...maybe 6 or 7. She had a baby and breastfed him (or maybe her can't remember) on the couch in front of us. I'd never seen breastfeeding before and I remember thinking it was odd. Clearly, I had been exposed to the whole bottle-feeding machine that is girls toys/dolls.

    My mom breastfed me but I have no idea how long. I knew when I became pregnant I wanted to breastfeed because I could not imagine going through the hassle of bottles and formula. Ugh.

    Both of my girls were/are breastfed. My oldest until she self-weaned at around 20 months (I suspect my pregnancy at that time might have had something to do with it. I really wasn't keen on tandem plus she didn't seem as into it either) My youngest is still nursng at 19mo. I will continue with her for as long as she wants be that until tomorrow, next month or next year.

    I'd love to see more education on breastfeeding and more people doing it in public. Essentially, nothing will change until it becomes more of "the norm". Personally, breastfeeding in public wasn't the best fit as my kids were easily distractable and needed the quiet, private place to nurse easily. If I have a 3rd IthinkI will be much more comfortable with doing it anywhere anytime simply because I "kind of" know what I'm doing now :)
  • Alison Kramer
    Thank you for your great comments. i have to agree about the hassle part, so all of the struggles of breastfeeding, i never had to fuss with a huge diaper bag, cleaning bottles, the cost of formula...
    i truly had never seen a woman breastfeeding until i was pregnant and then when i began to educate myself, the discussion was so heated. i am very proud of the choice i made for my children and i was also happy to nurse out in the world. i was lucky because my children were not easily distracted - i cannot imagine how crazy i would have been if i needed to be home or in another quiet place to nurse them.
  • Melany
    Thank you for a post on breastfeeding that allows for an open discussion on why women do or do not choose to breastfeed. Yes breast is best but you can't always know why the decision not to breastfeed has been made. Until we walk in another mom's shoes we can't judge her choice.

    For some women it isn't about choice. I breastfed for a long as I could with my daughter. Because of a breast reduction in my early twenties my milk supply was low. As a result I could only exclusively breastfeed the first four weeks of my daughter's life. She wasn't gaining enough weight and so I had to supplement with formula. I felt terrible that I couldn't supply enough nurishment for my daughter to thrive but I had to accept it and move on. I do feel fortunate however that I had the opportunity to experience breastfeeding. It is a powerful bonding experience for sure.

    About breastfeeding in public: there needs to be more education across society (not just to moms) on breastfeeding. If more people understood it, then maybe they would be more comfortable seeing a mom breastfeed in public.
  • Alison Kramer
    i think that no matter what we do for our children we never quite live up to what we wanted to do. it seems the better the parent, the harder we are on ourselves for not being perfect. Thats why i feel we need to talk more about breastfeeding and other parenting choices so we can support one another.
    i couldn't agree more about public education
  • My blog is (or maybe I should say was) a breastfeeding blog. My posts on breastfeeding centered more on my experiences at the time and less on what I thought others should or could do. I don't think that writing about a controversial topic has to necessarily alienate or hurt people who have made another choice. I think that it's always okay to share your experiences and especially in the area of struggles tell others "what worked for me."
  • Alison Kramer
    i agree - your blog is your space, and what you share is up to you, 100%. For me, this was my starting point, to explain where i am coming from about breastfeeding.
  • I haven't read all the comments, so I'm not sure if someone stated this already. But there's a lot of talk out there about women having the right to breastfeed in public, and I completely agree. There's a lot of talk about how women shouldn't have to cover up or be asked to move to a private area. Yes! I agree!
    My problem is that I don't feel comfortable with my own post-baby body to breastfeed openly in public. It requires lifting up my shirt to reveal rolls that previously didn't exist, and I don't feel comfortable showing off those parts of my body.
    I don't think it has all to do about people judging me, or thinking it's wrong that I choose to nurse in public. For me it has more to do with body image - just like some women with great bodies still feel uncomfortable wearing a two piece to the beach and would rather wear a one piece with a wrap.
  • Alison Kramer
    Thank you for your comments. i feel that if we saw more women nursing and learned to appreciate how beautiful women's bodies really are - real women's bodies - that we would be less self conscious. i am a believer in choice - women should be able and encouraged to breastfeed wherever they feel comfortable. There are also amazing products today, like nursing tanks, that cover the belly and allow easy nursing - also great in the cold... :)
  • phdinparenting
    Interesting post Alison.

    I think it is too bad that you don't write more about breastfeeding. I don't think you need to write about why it is great (most people know that already) or to write judgmental posts putting other moms down. However, I think if you were to write about the challenges you faced, how you overcame them, the good days, the bad days, etc. I think you have the potential to help a lot of other moms.

    I do write a lot about breastfeeding, but I write mostly about the things that trip moms up (the "booby traps" as Best for Babes calls them) and what moms can do or what society needs to do to get rid of those barriers.
  • Alison Kramer
    i can't tell you how happy i am to read your comment and i could not agree more.

    this was my first post about breastfeeding, because i struggled with how to begin. i am a huge advocate for breastfeeding in my work and in my life, but i am also myself, and i struggled with how to speak about it in an open forum such as the blog.

    You are someone i highly respect and i have read much of your writing myself.

    I do look forward to speaking more about the challenges and joys of nursing my children. But, you have to start somewhere
  • Sarah (oceansj)
    I love this post. I read it last night but was too tired to write a comment.

    I feel very lucky that I have been able to breastfeed both of my boys. I know that not every mother is able to or wants to and I respect any choice a mother makes for her family. It makes me so sad when I read about some of the ways that women judge other mothers' choices.

    I get angry when I hear stories of women being asked to stop breastfeeding in public, as if their 'discomfort' is more important than a baby's need for food. I breastfeed everywhere and anywhere: malls, restaurants, on a plane sitting next to a guy. I dare someone to 'ask' me not to. I think my Hooter Hider helps me feel comfortable because it does offer a little privacy but I don't always use it.

    Thanks for writing this!
  • Alison Kramer
    i couldn't agree more. no wonder we don't know what breastfeeding will be like, we never ever see it. i totally understand wanting to make women feel comfortable and have privacy - especially when some babies need the quiet to nurse properly - but a lot of women would breastfeed more easily if they just did it wherever it worked for them.

    When i had Jakob they didn't have as many nursing rooms, and you pretty much had to nurse in the bathroom, nasty!, or make a choice to go home (isolating) or nurse wherever - i chose out.

    i love covers as an option, i love anything that makes nursing more comfortable for moms and their children.
  • Beth
    Breastfeeding is something I have contemplated. I do not have children yet, but I will and likely sooner rather than later (if mother nature is on our side). My mom did not breastfeed my older brother, and I was born at 30 weeks and hospitalized for two months. Breastfeeding never would have been an option with me...though I don't knowif she would have tried anyways. Having known my mother's history, I hadn't thought too much about breastfeeding, because it's just not what was done in my family.

    That is, until family members in my generation began having babies along with friends. My husband also feels strongly about breastfeeding. Early on, I said for him I would do it but I said I wouldn't promise anymore than 3 months (I know, it was important to him so I set a timeline - but how can I make guarantees about something I haven't even tried?). I might not be able to breastfeed but I will try, I might choose to feed for years; who can say.

    The bottom line is at this point, I've embraced the idea - coming from someone who had never thought about it before. I've decided I will let go of any ideas I had about it and just see how it goes and see what works for me, my children and our lifestyle at that time. I've never judged anyone else for their decisions, but realized, in a strange way, I was judging and limiting myself.

    I'm more than happy to hear about people's experiences, advice etc on all sides of the debate. I've read the pros and cons of breastfeeding, the pros and cons of formula and all about the grey areas in between. I'm well-informed, I'm curious to learn. I just hope, whatever I choose, it's a decision that's mine and one that will be embraced without judgement.

    It's late. I rambled. It's not all English, but I hope you'll get the point in there somewhere!
  • Alison Kramer
    the comment is great, thank you :)
    When i had my first i said i was going to nurse for three months, and four years later he weaned. Like all things about parenting, you just can know how you will feel when it actually happens. i also was going to have five kids and be a social worker...so much for that.
    it sounds like you are doing the best thing you can, learning from others and getting ready to make your own choices
  • Beth
    I also appreciate that you speak out about nursing your children once they are older. It is not uncommon, but since breastfeeding is something often done privately, many women nursing older children seem to guard this fact even more. Because of this, I have to be honest, if I see someone in public nursing a toddler I find it strange. But that`s what our society has created because we`re just not used to seeing it. It`s not judgement per say but there`s still that moment of ``oh, that`s not a baby``. Doesn`t help when the main exposure is from trashy daytime TV shows that want to poke fun at women nursing older children either. It`s sad the way our perceptions are shaped - if more people were straight-forward and proud of their choices, I don`t think it would be this way!

    I agree entirely - we`ve got to run with what we`re dealt in life. You go with the flow and do what works for you.

    Thanks again for a great post.

    (not that i was attempting to hide my identity - but impressive of gravatar to find my photo without a last name!!)
  • Alison Kramer
    yeah, the reply system is pretty cool and i think it picks up your pic automatically.
    most people were shocked to see me nursing my toddlers, but i hoped the next time they saw it they would be less suprised
  • Wow. You are my new favorite person. What a beautiful, positive, and much-needed post. You are the type of person that WILL change the way the world looks at breastfeeding and breastfeeding advocacy, and please know that your words are so appreciated by this formula feeding, pro-breastfeeding, anti-guilt/pressure/judgment mom, who struggled to nurse/envies those who were able to/feels 100% confident in her choice to formula feed. :)
  • Alison Kramer
    thank you for your comment. its funny, seeing "fearless formula feeder" scared me for a second and then you wrote something so positive, just goes to show the problems in the debate
    truly appreciate you stopping by and saying hi, hope you'll be back again
  • Hi, I'm also one of the moms who couldn't breastfeed. My 1st child wasn't gaining at all, started losing, and once he started supplementing he didn't want the breast anymore. I was determined to do it with my 2nd child. I read the books, took a class, found a pediatrician who was completely supportive of breastfeeding (no formula samples or ads anywhere in his office) was completely geared up for it . . . and then suffered a uterine tear after delivery, had a near miss heart attack during emergency surgery to repair the tear, received 9 units of blood, was intubated for almost 24 hours, spent 4 days in the ICU, 1 day in the cardiac step-down unit, and, finally, one day in the maternity ward. During that time, I saw my daughter only a few times. We tried to pump for her, but it wasn't working (she did get a little colostrum that the lactation consultant managed to pump from me while I was unconscious).

    I was on 13 different medications when I left the hospital and we knew that I wasn't going to be able to breastfeed. I was crushed. I was more crushed when I was accosted by someone who felt she urgently had to tell me what a terrible mother I was because I was giving my baby a bottle.

    And I say all this so that I can also say thank you, which seems strange, I know, given that recitation because I suspect I still sound either detached or angry or both. But I want to thank you for one of the first pro-breastfeeding posts I've ever read that didn't leave me feeling like crap after I read it. I strongly encourage you to keep talking because not only are you persuasive about the good parts of breastfeeding, you're like a balm to those of us who couldn't.
  • Alison Kramer
    that may be the best feedback i can get " thank you for one of the first pro-breastfeeding posts I've ever read that didn't leave me feeling like crap after I read it"
    I love moms to be and new moms and their babies - i really do. We need to support one another. Thank you for sharing your story!
  • Jen
    I love this post so much it makes my heart ache a little bit. I am so happy I know you.
    You have written exactly what I wish people would write about breastfeeding. Hooray for boobies is right, but hooray also for this post. And you. <3
    (littlemissmocha, in case it takes me as a guest again!)
  • Alison Kramer
    Thank you Jen :)
    i was lucky to have a lot of supportive people around me right from the start, but so many new moms are left on their own to defend their choices. i think we should support one another
  • So lovingly beautifully written, thank you for your thoughtful post. Everything you wrote is so very much at the heart of what Best for Babes is all about, hence our Credo that states ALL moms deserve to make an informed feeding decision and to be cheered on, coached and celebrated without pressure, judgment or guilt; and all breastfeeding moms deserve to achieve their personal breastfeeding goals without being undermined by the boobytraps.

    When we shift the pressure off moms and on to the barriers that keep them from succeeding, we will remove the obstacles and more moms who want to breastfeed will be able to succeed!
  • Alison Kramer
    I LOVE what you wrote and what you stand for! I agree that it is the barriers we should be focusing on rather than on judgement and isolation. Working against one another just keeps us from moving forward together
  • Amanda
    I'll amen that. The bashing, defensiveness, and guilt tripping have to stop. Not only is it detrimental to new moms, but it keeps us from talking about the issues. When my eldest was born, I had no idea there was such a thing as inverted or flat nipples let alone how to deal with them. And the only advice I received was disastrous. The nurse just gave me a nipple shield, and the thing caused damage I'm still suffering from nearly four years later. Even after that another new mom I worked with continually guilt tripped me about bottle feeding, even going so far to call me at home after I quit to pass along information on relactating.

    When I was researching breastfeeding before my eldest was born, I found tons of information on why it was the best for baby and how to achieve a proper latch, but nothing but the briefest mention of issues and to ask for help at the hospital. Then, when help was asked for, it was the same poor advice I later learned my mother had been given, which also resulted in lasting injury and breastfeeding failure. Why? Why are so many quick to judge or jump in with irrelevant facts and opinions without so much as trying to listen and support the others around them?
  • Alison Kramer
    i think because we don't talk about it. We don't see it. We are afraid to share our stories and ask for help. Also, people feel so strongly about their parenting choices - i find the more engaged the parent, the stronger they feel. So differences of opinion can be taken as judgement.
    To me, the real issue is a lack of support for moms
  • devonzimny
    Being a mom is really hard. Breastfeeding was never easy for me and my daughter - I cried in the hospital because we just couldn't get it to work. And she would get frustrated and it was horrible. I only bf for 2 weeks and the whole time was difficult, and then I had to go on antibiotics and so I decided to stop. and I still feel guilty to this day. But, when I made the decision to stop, as hard as it was, it was a relief. then I could just enjoy my baby girl without pushing myself to do something that wasn't working for us. and she is a wonderful, healthy, smart little 2 year old now. I know I will try with our next one, whenever that is, and I hope to make it work. But, it is true - there are so many choices to make when it comes to your kids, and as a mom you just do the best you can for your family. and that is all you can do! and if they are happy and healthy, what more can you ask for?
  • Alison Kramer
    thank you for your comment :) i think the most we can do is surround ourself with supportive people and educate ourselves about our options. and then love ourselves and our children and forgive ourselves when we can't be "perfect" because it doesn't really exist.
  • JackiYo
    So when are the 'Nummies supports all boobies' shirts coming out?
  • Alison Kramer
    i'm thinking SXSW, or maybe Mother's Day :)
  • Yes - everyone's choice is their own. I am still nursing my 15-month old son. And I live in a town in Oregon where most of the moms I know breastfeed until 18 months or more. But a lot of them think I'm weird because I also started my kid in daycare at 3 months because I have my own business. He loves daycare and is thriving. But a lot of the stay-at-home crowd say "Oh you HAVE to put him in daycare?" Hmmmm. I suppose I don't have to, but we both like the balance. He's a really social kid - I need to focus.

    And I used to pump milk for him, but starting at about 10 months, I was sick of pumping, so started mixing formula and breastimilk for daycare and now moved to just formula for school. At home he nurses.

    I think the list of things that people will judge goes on and on - from food to bedtime to clothes to sports to academics to behavior. But as parents, we have to each make the best decision for ourselves and for our children.
  • Alison Kramer
    daycare and school is another similar topic for sure. working moms, stay at home moms, work from home moms....food choices, vaccines....
    i never knew when i had children that there would be so many tough choices
  • JackiYo
    First of all, great post. I would put myself in the same 'camp' as you. I am a breastfeeding advocate, but I am also a mommy advocate, a daddy advocate and a child advocate. I will fiercely defend anyone's choice - whether it would be mine or not. I will share my tales with friends who are going through similar trials and doubts to help get them through, but I will make sure they know those were MY choices. And my choices are not my advice. It's just what worked for me. One of my favouite things to tell parents, new parents in particular, is that we are all experts on our OWN children.

    Without completely taking over this blog, I want to quickly mention a good friend of mine who had immense guilt about not being able to breastfeed her first. She pumped and fed from a bottle. She should get a medal! To pump in between every feeding?! That's twice the work. She was so hard on herself.

    I, too, wish we would see breastfeeding more often. We all have our battle scars - physical, emotional, psychological. We don't need to pile mommy-guilt from others on top of everything else. We absolutely need to lift others up, not judge them for different choices. And that's what they are. Different. Not better. Not worse. Not right. Not wrong. Different.
  • Alison Kramer
    that is my favourite advice to moms to be too - you are the expert in your own child. I always proudly nursed in public and smile at moms who do. But i smile at pretty much everyone with a baby!
    Thank you Jacki, feel free to take over any time :)
  • Alison, I love your attitude, your acceptance of different ways, your support to other women. The beauty of my soul makes me cry. I would like to be your friend on Facebook if you are there. I shared this blog with all my friends on twitter and I run a fan page called Children of the light there. I have never met someone like you so open and non judgmental and it makes my heart sing, like I finally found someone from home. Big pink love to you Mama... from a mother of three lovely children of the light.

    PS: I also run a community of ladies of light on ning and I would love for you to join.
  • Alison Kramer
    i am on fb indeed :) http://www.facebook.com/alisonkramer
    Come and say hi
  • JackiYo
    I wish I had it to do all over again. I would be much more comfortable about breastfeeding in public. I did it, but usually found a secluded spot or really covered up. Was more comfortable with my second. I *think* I'm done having babies.
  • Alison Kramer
    :) i must admit i nursed everywhere, especially when i was tandem nursing. i once had someone in a mall tell me there was a nursing room i could nurse my then 6 month old in, i kindly said i was happy where i was. then, the next time she looked over, i was nursing my 3 yo
  • I'm getting a little emotional reading this post. My first baby was premature and as hard as I tried I couldn't breastfeed him. He was losing weight and got down to 4 lbs and I had to supplement with formula. Then eventually just went to bottle feeding. I was made to feel from some other moms that I was not a good mom and it was a very hard time for me.

    I guess I just don't understand why moms would make other moms feel this way. I just want everyone to get along and of course think it's great for those who can breastfeed, but please don't judge those who aren't because you probably don't know the whole story.

    For my second baby I just didn't care anymore what people thought and bottlefed him from the beginning because of what happened with my first son. I felt like it was the best decision I ever made for me and my family.

    I appreciate how you worded everything in this post and love the fact you don't want it to be mom vs. mom.

    I would love to connect you with my friend Casey from http://www.clubnewmom.com. I think you and her would have great synergy as you are both helping new moms with great info.

    @jhaubein
  • Alison Kramer
    thank you for sharing your story. i am not sure why we judge each other. i am a huge breastfeeding supporter, but i see that every story is different. I would rather focus on how we can support one another and raise a community of healthy and happy children
  • I'm one of the mothers who couldn't breastfeed. I tried, I really, really did. My 1st son was born with a condition that required him to be hospitalized and have a colostomy. He couldn't eat for days and then only water from a bottle. Finally, I was allowed to give him the breast and he went so eagerly for it, but the nurse dove in and wiped me with an alcohol wipe and he jerked away and that was that.

    I tried to breastfeed him for a month. He never, ever took it. He would scream his head off. I would cry my eyes out. My MIL told me I was a terrible mother for not breastfeeding, my doctor told me my son wouldn't be able to have his future surgeries without breastfeeding, women in the market scolded me for giving him a bottle. I cried on the bus home because total strangers got after me for something I couldn't control.

    Finally, in desperation, I yelled at my son's doctor and demanded he tell me HOW to get my child to take the breast (he wouldn't even take breastmilk in a bottle!). He told me to just not feed him until he took the breast. At a month old, my son didn't eat for 7 hours. This is a kid who was gulping 4-6 ounces of formula every hour, so I KNOW he was hungry. He just. wouldn't. take. it. Then my sister-in-law came and took him away and gave him a bottle and told me I sucked because I was starving my child and that's when I gave up.

    And guess what? My son is now 4, healthy, smart and that darn stubborn streak is still there, but I'm hoping it will serve him well in the future. :)
  • JackiYo
    What you went through is just horrible. Hugs! How can we make a new mother feel like that?!
  • Alison Kramer
    thank you so much for sharing your story! You are an amazing mom. We are all too quick to judge each other, blame and shame. A healthy, smart and stubborn 4 year old is an accomplishment to be proud of
  • I am all for breastfeeding, but like Elizabeth said... A mother has to do what works for her. If that means pumping into a bottle, supplementing with formula, that is ok. I nursed 2 children until they were 8-9 months old, while working full-time. It was hard, but was something I felt strongly about. But I also feel strongly that it may not be for everyone & that at the point it becomes overwheling for the mother she should stop.
  • Alison Kramer
    thank you so much for your comments. i really want to fight for more support for moms who want to breastfeed when they go back to work, to make it an easier choice for them.
  • Lee Ann Miller
    Oh yes. Fellow-feeder here. Loved every single second of breast-feeding. Memories I treasure. Such a special time in my life. (Of course with boys, 15 and 10 now, they aren't sure how special it was :) Thanks for sharing. Along with a tough chick- you're a pretty cool one too.
  • Alison Kramer
    well thank you :) It was amazing how hard it was to find a picture for the post, nursed thousands of times and no pictures or anything....They grow up so quickly
  • I am an advocate of breastfeeding also, but I agree that it's none of my business, or anyone else's for that matter, why someone chooses to or not to breastfeed. If someone asks, I explain why I did it and what benefits breastfeeding has but I would never judge someone who choose the bottle over the breast.

    Great blog entry!
  • Alison Kramer
    thank you. I agree, i love sharing my story with people who ask. I just find it hard in a public forum like twitter to share my personal story since people will often read that as "what i think everyone should do"
  • I know what you mean. Not everyone is open-minded or gets defensive easily.
  • I wrote something similar a while back, about the shaming that can occur in breastfeeding debates. I know many women who couldn't breastfeed. I know some who didn't want to. I know that *I* struggled with how to write about it when I weaned my second - which I did early, because I was just so tired and depressed and bitten and sore, and which I was aware would draw criticism. So I worry a bit when we yell at formula companies and champion the boob over all else, because for some women, formula is a life-saver, and for others, boob isn't king. So. It's complicated. Thanks for keeping up the discussion.
  • Alison Kramer
    thank you for being a part of the conversation. i am asked a lot about standing up for breastfeeding, but really i believe in good parenting. And that can include a rainbow of choices. What works for me, might not work for you. My greatest fear is isolating a new mom who needs support
  • As you and I have already talked about before, I'm also a breastfeeding (and cloth diaper, baby wearing, co-sleeping, etc.) mom ... but I'm also in favor of it not being everything-or-nothing, right-or-wrong.

    Now I nursed my daughter for 7 months, she did drink from a bottle, and got a little bit of formula from the beginning. Because that was the only way it was going to happen.

    And I remember back when she was 2 weeks old and I admitted to a breastfeeding mom group that I had to give her a bottle once a day ... and they looked at me like I was the devil. A failure. I left the meeting and cried all the way home.

    I'm an advocate for doing what works. For choice. For education. For understanding. For empathy. For no one feeling wrong for doing this a bit different. For breastfeeding in public, and bottle feeding in public -- how about, we feed our children in public. For supporting each other, in whatever choices we make for our families.

    ~ ElizabethPW
  • Alison Kramer
    couldn't agree with you more! We are so quick to jump on other parents that do things differently than we do. it isolates us, divides us, and makes it impossible to have a community of parents.
  • Sandy
    Awesome. I feel the same way. It's a very sensitive topic to most moms. Well done for starting! I also love breastfeeding, I wish I had done it longer...(14 and 16 months) It was one of the easiest and sometimes one of the most difficult things I've ever done. I'm glad I did it, and I often miss it! Thanks for sharing.
  • Alison Kramer
    same to you :) It is such a sensitive topic, hard to know how to talk about it. But, if we never start, then it is impossible.
  • Hooray for boobies!
  • That's hilarious.
  • Alison Kramer
    Amen sista! :)
  • I am so pro breastfeeding and fed both of mine for a long time. During that time I could not figure out why someone would not want to do that for their baby. But now that I am removed from it, I am no longer a milk factory, hooked up to pumps and kids, and I have my boobs back. I can look at it differently, I understand that not all are like me, but that doesn't make them a bad parent. I am sure just like you that they do many things right, where I am not!
  • Alison Kramer
    That's just it! We all do things differently, and we are all experts on our kids, its a relationship. The whole "bad parent" "good parent" doesn't help anyone. Thanks for saying hi :)
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